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Post by Heaven&Earth on Nov 1, 2005 9:18:47 GMT -5
While I love to see them, I'm just wondering what the stance is here for siggy pics/tickers? I know on the old board we didn't have them, and at other boards I have visited there have been big controversy over use of pg tickers and pics in siggys on the loss boards so as to not hurt feelings. Just wondering what your thought is on this since I see they're already being used. I personally love to see the pics, etc, but just don't want to see anyone getting their feelings hurt b/c of pictures, tickers, blinkies, etc.
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Post by Myra on Nov 1, 2005 9:26:58 GMT -5
You make an excellent point Angie. I wonder if they could add the option to turn our signature off when replying to a post like we had on the old board. I used to turn my sig off when replying to posts on the mc and ttc boads as I didn't want to cause any more pain.
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Post by becca on Nov 1, 2005 10:04:37 GMT -5
I agree ... as a community, we need to consider the feelings of our grieving friends ... both those grieving from loss and those enduring IF. Not sure what the answer is, but I wanted to throw in my vote that pictures should be limited in signatures. For me, it would be hard to remember to turn off my siggy on certain replies ... so easier to just not put in the pictures.
My own thoughts here .... Some boards also restrict words in siggys that have to do with children (like names, birthdates, adoption dates, etc.). I guess I think the pictures are more of a potential problem than the words. Pictures (drawings or photos) are so powerful .... for me, especially the ones of preborn babies. Again, just my own personal thoughts.
Thanks for bringing up this topic. I am sure there is an answer out there that would work for most everyone.
Becca
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Post by Myra on Nov 1, 2005 11:12:33 GMT -5
I was just browsing the features and did find these options in modify profiles
Show Signatures: Selecting "No" will make it so that no signatures are displayed to you at the bottom of posts.
Show Avatars: If you do not wish to see the avatars of other users on this forum, select "No."
Show Images: If you wish to disable all images on the forum, select "No." All images will be replaced by a text equivalent, and you will be able to browse the forum faster.
So members can choose to turn all that stuff off if they choose not to view them in anyones posts. Maybe we can come up with some quick tips for new users at some point??
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Post by Rose on Nov 1, 2005 12:13:36 GMT -5
I really think that discretion should be used in this area. I do not think that people who are rejoicing in a pregnancy after loss should not be given the opportunity to celebrate their new pregnancy. If someone finds my siggy upsetting, I would hope they would PM me and let me know.
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Post by andrewsmommy on Nov 1, 2005 14:49:48 GMT -5
I just wanted to leave my two cents I know for me, being pregnant after a stillbirth and a m/c, I have been having a very hard time getting excited, till today. People on PAM were talking about adding tickers in their siggies and I thought how neat. It was so much fun adding a ticker to my siggy. It was a chance to celebrate being pregnant again. It made me smile and gave me an ounce of hope. I know for me, even after both losses, and maybe I am odd, but I never was hurt by anyone ON HERE having the success of another pregnancy. While I found pain with people "in real life" seeing women here moving forward, gave me hope that some day I to would be moving forward and maybe just maybe get a baby for my arms. I hope no one is offended that a ticker is actually helpping me deal with the emotions of a current pregnancy.
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Post by ellie on Nov 1, 2005 15:21:56 GMT -5
I think Im the one who could have started this really with my ticker. Those of you that know me well will know my last intention would be to cause hurt. I will keep mine on when replying BUT if I go onto the TTC board or IHAM etc then obviously I will not show it. I like to see them but if Clara says no then I will get rid without question. Im sure majority of us here are sensible enough to think of others. I apologise if I have cause anyone hurt. Please feel free to PM anytime. Love and hugs to all my SG sisters Ellie
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Post by becca on Nov 1, 2005 15:33:10 GMT -5
That I know of, no one has had their feelings hurt by anyone's pcitures, tickers or siggys at this point. My only point was that it is something to think about. I know no one here wants to unknowingly hurt someone in the future.
I want to celebrate all the new pgs and new births with all of you as well. We all do. But, I am sure that all of us had some point in our grief journeys where this kind of news would have been upsetting. We just need to be mindful of that for our newcomers or those with recent loss or longtime IF/ttc.
I love the idea of turning off the siggy when in IF, loss or ttc boards, but personally, I know I would forget to do it. Since I don't trust myself, I won't be putting tickers or pictures with children in my siggy. I am sure it's because I am OLD and losing my mind ... tee hee. For those of you with better memory skills than me, go for it!
Becca
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Post by Myra on Nov 1, 2005 15:36:43 GMT -5
Ellie
Have you figured out how to turn you siggy off in a reply? I don't see a button for that. I am thinking that we need that option like we had on the old board.
I'm not offended btw but I can see how someone who just suffered a loss could be with some of the more graphic pictures and details in the tickers.
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Post by mistygrl70 on Nov 1, 2005 15:50:59 GMT -5
I'll add my thoughts too.
Personally... I'm torn on this issue. I understand how it feels to see these things when you're ttc or coping w/a loss. But, in the same respect.. it gave me hope... hope that someday that will be me...finally it is.
There is already a feature for users to turn them off if they don't want to see them...I know I am one of those mindless people that wouldn't think to disable it when I reply.
I truly hope thier not a problem. I think thier a great way for everyone to show thier ttc, pregnant, ovulating. etc
I've seen tickers for everything!
*hugz* to all
Darlene
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Post by Freedom on Nov 1, 2005 17:18:05 GMT -5
Dearest Clara,
Let's put it into this perspective: Would if there are those w/ multiple losses....and no longer have the hope of having another baby? Would if the testing has been done and there is not a single drop of evidence that some will ever have another baby. These tickers I don't think would add hope, but just more anguish and pain. Is there anyway that tickers could be detected (to be blocked) on all the other boards except PAM and MAM (maybe even some of the other boards like potpourri and reaching out for them to be allowed). Personally I have found seeing little tickers w/ babies on them a bit disturbing.....I am on my 3rd loss now and have stumped the doctors as to why I am no longer able to carry a child. I feel I am w/o much hope at this point of ever carrying another child to term. On stronger days I visit Pam and Mam and try to focus on their needs rather mine, b/c I know how hard and scary it can be to be pg after a loss....but by choice knowing that there are tickers on there.....but there are many days I don't feel strong enough to visit there. I just left PAM just a short time ago. Don't get me wrong, please. I believe that some do find hope in seeing the tickers. They are of pride and hopeful confidence with moving on....but some of us don't get to move on. Some of us come to S/G w/ hopes of having the support we so desperately need. When we see these tickers it hurts. It is just another reminder that some get to go on to a better journey than the one we are stuck in. I know of a few people here at s/g that may never be able to move PAM, let alone the mother of all boards here, MAM. I am sorry if this upsets those of you who use tickers, but I needed to speak my thoughts on this one. I am usually quiet when it comes to controversy....but this one hits home for me. If you are not living w/ the fear of never being able to have a child, it is hard for one to understand what affect the tickers may truely have. We should be able to feel safe on our boards that deal w/ losses w/o there being "happy" baby tickers flashing at you when you are in turmoil over a fresh loss.
I feel that MTOM, IHAM, loss of young and older, infertility, .....should be sheltered. These boards are supposed to be a safe environment that we visit. That is what this is about....helping others through their journey of grief...to uplift, not discourage. I believe you are going to do what you think is best. If you feel the tickers are ok, then so be it. It is not going to stop me from coming here....it would just make me (along w/ others that I am sure have a difficult time voicing their opinions on this subject) feel more safe in an evironment that is based on our needs.....of a loss or multiple losses. We already have to face the real world of seeing baby carriages w/ a beautiful baby in them, pg women, announcements of a baby shower in the mail and so on. This website has been built to encourage and support. I know that your decision on this matter will be thought out and weighed. I am not in protest of tickers....just the protection of where they show up. Thank you for taking the time to read my thoughts on this matter. To those of you w/ tickers....I truly wish you the best of luck w/ your new little ones to come. (edit to say I did turn off my images) Tonya
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Post by Clara Hinton on Nov 1, 2005 17:27:41 GMT -5
Dear Tonya and others concerned about siggys,
((((hugs)))) I appreciate you sharing your feelings and giving me more insight into what you expect from the SG message boards.
Since these message boards went live yesterday, my email has been flooded with ideas, suggestions, disappointments, and requests. I am taking everything to heart (as you know that I do), but I am asking that you give me a few days to digest everything.
Right now, I, too, am in the beginning stages with the new message boards. I don't even know my capabilities as an administrator. I don't know what I am able to lock, delete, or otherwise control. So, I can't really answer your question just yet.
Thank you for your patience as you give me time to work through some of the problem areas we're facing on the new message boards.
I will get back to you (and all others who have expressed concerns and disappointments) with the new message boards.
Love, Clara
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Post by joy on Nov 1, 2005 18:28:14 GMT -5
(((Tonya))) Hugs to you, sweetie, I'm so, so sorry for what you are going through.
I just wanted to say that while I don't think the board system will let Clara choose which boards can show tickers (it's a by-user thing), I would highly recommend going to your profile and turning off images. I did this myself, not because I'm sensitive to the tickers, per se, but because I prefer a nice, clean reading environment and the pages load much faster that way. There's also an option to hide everyone's signatures, but I think turning off images is a nicer option because you can still see the text of everyone's signatures...just no photos, tickers, or blinkies.
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Post by prettyfeet83 on Nov 2, 2005 9:48:44 GMT -5
My take is that even before I had children, I wouldn't have minded seeing this sweet babies and the tickers, because they gave me hope. Hope that maybe someday I too, would be blessed with the same thing.
But I do understand that not everyone would have the same mindset, however THEY have the option themselves to turn the images off, so they can do that on their end, if it is hurting them. That way they can protect themsleves and those who want to see them, can.
I see no reason not to rejoice in the miracles we have. Putting faces with names has been awesome for me. Makes all of our little miracles even more real.
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Post by princessbride on Nov 2, 2005 11:10:19 GMT -5
I think the viewer should have the option of not seeing tickers. when i'm sad, i've never resented the happiness of others. I would hate that i responded to someone and didn't turn off my tickler (which I don't have one) and it was taken personally. in fact, it would probably make me NOT respond for fear of that which is sad because we all get our feelings hurt when people don't respond.
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